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No One's Sure What Will Happen With Syria

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Secretary of State John Kerry is certain the House will follow the President’s wishes and authorize an attack. But Politico says the President faces an “uphill battle” in the days ahead because lawmakers on both sides of the aisle remain “highly skeptical,” according to Buzzfeed, of the President’s authorization billsent to Congress on Saturday evening. 

Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy called the authorization draft, written by Obama’s core team of advisors, “too open-ended” after the classified briefings held on Capitol Hill on Sunday. Roughly 60-70 House members and a handful of Senators showed up on their long weekend to attend the meetings where the President’s top advisers presented their case for an attack. 

"I know it’s going to be amended in the Senate," Leahy told reporters after the meeting. Indeed, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Sen. Robert Menendez are already working on revisions to to "narrow the scope for any U.S. military mission in Syria," Politico reports

While members of both parties agree the President made the right move allowing Congress to vote, there’s little to no consensus on whether or not we should attack. Or how. There’s no party line to tow this time. Instead, lawmakers are listening and developing reasoned decisions about what the best possible next step should be. “I’m still very skeptical about the President’s proposal. It is not clear to me that we know what the result of this attack would be, or whether it will be effective,” Democratic House intelligence committee member Jim Himes told Buzzfeed. Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, the head of the House GOP Conference, said lawmakers were “becoming more informed and they’re asking questions and that’s all part of the decision,” after the meeting. She still doesn’t know how she’ll vote, though. “It’s a difficult decision,” she told the Washington Post. “I have a lot of concerns. I’m skeptical, but I’m going to listen and continue to learn.”

Even some lobby groups on the left are split over what to do next. Germany won’t have any part in an attack. But the Arab League is urging an international response from the U.N. or elsewhere as quickly as possible. “Any opposition to any international action would only encourage Damascus to move forward with committing its crimes and using all weapons of mass destruction,” Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal said Sunday. 

The President is now working the phones with Vice President Joe Biden and his Chief of Staff Dennis McDonough — "flooding the zone," according to Fox News’ Ed Henry — before Obama leaves for the G-20 summit in Moscow, Russia on Tuesday. 

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How Should You Feel About Bombing Syria? A Guide
NOTE: This article thinks that America should invade Syria as a possible option. I, however, 100% DO NOT SUPPORT invading Syria.
President Obama says he hasn’t yet made a decision about intervening in the Syrian civil war as a response to last week’s devastating chemical-weapons attack. And if he hasn’t, why wouldyou have, especially since it’s Labor Day weekend and you’re trying to figure out how to grill scallops, exactly, like, just throw them on there, or what? Well: We’re here to help. Here are four opinions you can have about the U.S. options:
Opinion 1: Do not bomb Syria
Who believes this: Most of the U.S., depending on how you read the polls; most of the U.K. and especially the Labour party; pacifists; non-interventionists like Rand Paul; Syria’s allies.
What it entails: Depending on which person is espousing this opinion there are a few different flavors of not-bombing Syria, but all of them share an essence, which is “not shooting missiles at anything.” Maybe you’re a pure isolationist who thinks the U.S. shouldn’t get involved at all; maybe you think the U.S. should limit itself to providing weapons to rebels; maybe you’re the kind of person who has noticed a pattern of bad results when “the West” gets itself involved in “The Middle East”; maybe you’re Vladimir Putin and you want to troll the U.S. by supporting Assad; maybe you’re on the Iranian Supreme Council and you want to prop up another Shi’a regime. The point is, you all agree: Let’s not bomb!
The problem with this opinion: According to intelligence from the U.S. and other countries, Assad’s forces have used chemical weapons on a civilian population, in violation of international law and really any decent sense of morality. Refusing to lift a finger (…to press the “Cruise Missile” button) in response represents an abdication of U.S. responsibility not only as a member of the global community broadly, but as a singularly powerful force on the world stage. Speaking more practically, an attack could prevent further chemical-weapon use—and, furthermore, refusal to act allows more civilians to die in Syria, and more weapons to fall into the hands of the extremist groups who have set up shop as rebels.
Opinion 2: Bomb Syria to punish Assad for using chemical weapons
Who believes this: By most indications, the Obama administration; France.
What it entails: This seems to be the option currently favored by Obama and his foreign-policy team: A time-limited series of strikes intended to “punish” Assad for chemical-weapons attacks, and warn him against using such weapons again, but not necessarily concerned with toppling or removing him from power. The idea here is that Assad still maintains fairly broad support inside the country, and the ideal end result is a peace deal between rebels and the government—not a potential power vacuum that could allow extremist groups to flourish, and certainly not deep U.S. involvement in a multifaceted sectarian civil war.
The problem with this opinion: Setting aside the fact that there just isn’t an coalition or broad international support for this option, which undermines the idea that it’s about “international law,” this is just kind of bombing for bombing’s sake, isn’t it? Without a specific set of goals other than a vague idea “punishment” and “warning”—of a regime, we should note, that’s made up largely of a religious sect, the Alawites, that likely believes at this point that it’s fighting for its very existence—why bother?
Opinion 3: Bomb Syria to remove Assad from Power
Who believes this: Turkey,Saudi Arabia, Qatar, interventionists like Senator John McCainand Foreign Policy's Michael Weiss.
What it entails: Shoot cruise missiles at Syrian targets with the specific intent of removing Assad from power entirely, not only “punishing” him for using chemical weapons but helping end the civil war in the country and opening up the possibility of a democratic, peaceful Syria.
The problem with this opinion: "Regime change" has not, historically, worked out super well for the U.S., and really not super well for the countries whose regimes the U.S. has decided to “change.” There’s no indication that Syria would be any different—and some indication that, absent Assad, the country might be less stable. (Among other things, the Alawite/Shi’a minority could face violent retribution if removed from power entirely.)
Opinion 4: Fuckin’ invade
Who believes this: Actually, surprisingly, no one, really? Assad’s son? The Onion, maybe?
What it entails: "Boots on the ground": Actual U.S. (and whichever other nations are dumb enough) soldiers (and tanks, planes, and so on) engaging with the Assad regime’s forces and enforcing peace across the country.

The problem with this opinion: Nothing. There are no problems with this.

thepoliticalfreakshow:

How Should You Feel About Bombing Syria? A Guide

NOTE: This article thinks that America should invade Syria as a possible option. I, however, 100% DO NOT SUPPORT invading Syria.

President Obama says he hasn’t yet made a decision about intervening in the Syrian civil war as a response to last week’s devastating chemical-weapons attack. And if he hasn’t, why wouldyou have, especially since it’s Labor Day weekend and you’re trying to figure out how to grill scallops, exactly, like, just throw them on there, or what? Well: We’re here to help. Here are four opinions you can have about the U.S. options:

Opinion 1: Do not bomb Syria

Who believes this: Most of the U.S., depending on how you read the polls; most of the U.K. and especially the Labour party; pacifists; non-interventionists like Rand Paul; Syria’s allies.

What it entails: Depending on which person is espousing this opinion there are a few different flavors of not-bombing Syria, but all of them share an essence, which is “not shooting missiles at anything.” Maybe you’re a pure isolationist who thinks the U.S. shouldn’t get involved at all; maybe you think the U.S. should limit itself to providing weapons to rebels; maybe you’re the kind of person who has noticed a pattern of bad results when “the West” gets itself involved in “The Middle East”; maybe you’re Vladimir Putin and you want to troll the U.S. by supporting Assad; maybe you’re on the Iranian Supreme Council and you want to prop up another Shi’a regime. The point is, you all agree: Let’s not bomb!

The problem with this opinion: According to intelligence from the U.S. and other countries, Assad’s forces have used chemical weapons on a civilian population, in violation of international law and really any decent sense of morality. Refusing to lift a finger (…to press the “Cruise Missile” button) in response represents an abdication of U.S. responsibility not only as a member of the global community broadly, but as a singularly powerful force on the world stage. Speaking more practically, an attack could prevent further chemical-weapon use—and, furthermore, refusal to act allows more civilians to die in Syria, and more weapons to fall into the hands of the extremist groups who have set up shop as rebels.

Opinion 2: Bomb Syria to punish Assad for using chemical weapons

Who believes this: By most indications, the Obama administration; France.

What it entails: This seems to be the option currently favored by Obama and his foreign-policy team: A time-limited series of strikes intended to “punish” Assad for chemical-weapons attacks, and warn him against using such weapons again, but not necessarily concerned with toppling or removing him from power. The idea here is that Assad still maintains fairly broad support inside the country, and the ideal end result is a peace deal between rebels and the government—not a potential power vacuum that could allow extremist groups to flourish, and certainly not deep U.S. involvement in a multifaceted sectarian civil war.

The problem with this opinion: Setting aside the fact that there just isn’t an coalition or broad international support for this option, which undermines the idea that it’s about “international law,” this is just kind of bombing for bombing’s sake, isn’t it? Without a specific set of goals other than a vague idea “punishment” and “warning”—of a regime, we should note, that’s made up largely of a religious sect, the Alawites, that likely believes at this point that it’s fighting for its very existence—why bother?

Opinion 3: Bomb Syria to remove Assad from Power

Who believes this: Turkey,Saudi Arabia, Qatar, interventionists like Senator John McCainand Foreign Policy's Michael Weiss.

What it entails: Shoot cruise missiles at Syrian targets with the specific intent of removing Assad from power entirely, not only “punishing” him for using chemical weapons but helping end the civil war in the country and opening up the possibility of a democratic, peaceful Syria.

The problem with this opinion: "Regime change" has not, historically, worked out super well for the U.S., and really not super well for the countries whose regimes the U.S. has decided to “change.” There’s no indication that Syria would be any different—and some indication that, absent Assad, the country might be less stable. (Among other things, the Alawite/Shi’a minority could face violent retribution if removed from power entirely.)

Opinion 4: Fuckin’ invade

Who believes this: Actually, surprisingly, no one, really? Assad’s son? The Onion, maybe?

What it entails: "Boots on the ground": Actual U.S. (and whichever other nations are dumb enough) soldiers (and tanks, planes, and so on) engaging with the Assad regime’s forces and enforcing peace across the country.

The problem with this opinion: Nothing. There are no problems with this.

(Source: thepoliticalfreakshow)